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radio this is Mission Control Houston

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station this is fox news radio and eben

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Fox News Radio Evan we hear you loud and

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thank you so much it is great to be back

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in speaking with you and it's been a

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while but we're so glad to see your

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faces again um the first question I have

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for you is probably the big news and

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although we've we've encountered another

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delay here we're getting very close to

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seeing this test launch of the SpaceX

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Dragon this has to be something very

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exciting for for the both of you up

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there and and as well as your crewmates

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what do you think a successful test

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flight means to to you and your

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well successful test flight means

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everything happens according to plan

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where the vehicle gets launched

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rendevouz with station all the

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commanding goes as as what we'd like

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from the demonstration point of view

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where it comes close to station then we

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send it away then it comes back and then

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we snag it with the robotic arm and

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birth it and get the supplies off and

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then it doesn't end there we load it up

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with payload to go back to earth and

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then we unbirth it and release it and

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then it makes its journey back to earth

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for splashdown in the ocean and recovery

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of payload and this will be if all of

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that happens according to plan it will

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be great to have significant payload

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down capability once again because

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everybody talks about getting payload up

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to station but one of the things that's

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sorely missing in the wake of the

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shuttle retirement is getting payload

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back down and we have all kinds of

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useful things that we want to get back

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down to earth but currently don't really

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have a way to get them down and dr.

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pettit and also dr. Kuiper's you can

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answer this as well a good number of the

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programs aboard the space station relied

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so much on shuttle with this wrist would

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it would a good successful test flight

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and the eventual regular use of of the

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SpaceX craft as well as some of the

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other cots crafts would this restore

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some independence to NASA in terms of

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its ability to get not just people but

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but as you said you know the payloads

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of Independence but and let me explain

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something that's really going to be

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frozen samples back and and crucial to

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the life science experiments that we are

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human physiology experiments we have

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freezers we have three freezers on

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samples and and there they're down at

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laboratory from where they're going to

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be analyzed and currently Dragon will be

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the only way that we can get these

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samples back to earth and that will will

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allow the science behind all our human

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physiology to continue no that's okay

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these types of crafts uh are there any

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safety concerns about flying either to

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this station or back home in a private

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already there but I'm sure if things go

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meant space flight with this kind of

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craft and safety is a very important

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secretary space flight we all know that

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and pretty sure that this will be the

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future of space flight as well besides

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all the things that the agencies do and

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development of commercial aviation back

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in the 20s and there were quite a few

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nasty little accidents that resulted in

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short term setback but then it set the

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whole aviation industry to a standstill

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necessarily play itself out for space in

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our near future but we shouldn't be

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surprised if we do see some catastrophes

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happen and what we need to do when those

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do happen is just regroup sharpen our

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pencils figure out what went wrong work

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historical sense of private space

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transit you know if you think back to

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the explorers like Christopher Columbus

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who who sailed taxpayer-funded vehicles

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companies like the Dutch West Indies and

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partnership and and and how does that

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enterprises and you see that with wagon

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trade supporting forts where the fort's

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mission that the fort's did but the

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wagon trains provided all the goods and

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services and then you see see that with

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government didn't build the railroads

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type of structure going on in space

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where where governments will define the

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free enterprise will help supply the

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they it's been a while since we've we've

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because there are no more but how's the

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station holding up these days and tell

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combustion experiments which are really

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fascinating fire is one of the

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fundamental aspects that our whole

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civilization is built on in fact the the

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human beings first using fire was one

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step that took us from where we were to

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where we are now and and it's not

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surprising that we are still scratching

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our heads and wondering how fireworks

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and we are studying how fireworks in a

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weightless environment where fire is

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fuels and solid fuels and looking at the

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parameters behind where they will burn

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inside of the flame so that's one of the

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engineering research this this is as

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good as it gets from the point of view

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of designing your spacecraft making the

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systems work and and advancing the

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technology needed to continue the

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exploration of space dr. pettit dr.

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you guys so you have another interview

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coming up next but thank you so much for

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the event please stand by for a voice

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Center how do you read me dude he

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allowed it clears thank you very much

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Andre and Don thanks for taking time out

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to chat you guys obviously have a busy

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Soyuz and all of that wondered how it's

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your understanding if they launched on

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capability to send retreat commands and

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capability you guys have during the

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final stages of that rendezvous to to

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kind of walk me through some of the

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abort capability you have all the way

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until you get to that 30-foot

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you

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so we get the a push push the continuing

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on with what I would say we could push

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the the free drift command weird when we

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don't want any thrusters firing on the

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vehicle and we do that right before we

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grab it with the arm and then we have a

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department mad and this is for a plan

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the departure that we we send the

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vehicle away when it's ready to reenter

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with a payload and slice down and then

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oh we got a couple more but we got

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unbuttons with red shepherds we hope you

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don't have to push any of these what is

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the abort command or command and that

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sends it away for about a day and it

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gets the chance to regroup try it again

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and then the kamon that we really don't

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want to stay in the inert spent the FRG

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f set command this basically separates

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the grapple pin from the vehicle if it's

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stuck on the end of the arm and

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depending on what phase we happen to be

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we we might lose the contents of the

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vehicle if that were to happen but at

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least it would save station from having

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a dragon permanently attached to it so

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so these are the commands that we have

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available as crew and done I apologize

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that k you flip we all off the top of

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that answer I'm assuming from what

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you're saying is that all the way in you

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guys have the ability to slow the thing

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down stop the things send it away

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whatever is required depending on what

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that's a good a good synopsis of what I

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just spent five minutes explaining you

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know there doesn't seem to be a huge

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hurry for SpaceX orbital to get to

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station I mean you guys are fairly

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loaded with supplies and consumables

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right now what's your understanding of

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when they really do need to start

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getting there I guess I guess what's

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what's prompting the question is it

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seems like there's a bit of a rush to

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get this off and I don't know that I

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understand why there would be any need

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for a rush it just doesn't seem to be an

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it's a more important the most important

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thing about this first attempt is is to

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make sure you get your hardware your

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software your operations found correctly

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and they could send an empty vehicle up

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here from a supply point of view and

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it's the and the important aspect is is

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to show that we can actually do this and

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the supply to just frosting on the cake

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however we are on a frontier up here and

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we're always on the verge of supply

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limited and and you can't just run down

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to the local grocery store it just as an

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example we're almost out of disinfectant

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wipes and without that we can't clean

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our hands after we go to the bathroom

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and and so we're we're always running

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low on things like that we're getting

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low on garbage bag liners and so we're

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looking at at other things we can use to

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put our garbage in until we get more

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garbage bag liners so so what we're

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always there's always something that

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we're short on up here and at its and

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the more more wagons bringing supplies

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to station the better the supplies are

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here and the better we can continue our

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work and get the business done of

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working and living in space and doing

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the research the scientific and

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engineering research yeah if you're

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under a question well I may have this

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backwards my understanding is done you

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operate the arm for for the initial

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capture and andre's on the CBM I guess

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and then it's backwards for deploy is

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that correct and if it is maybe Andre

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could tell us a little bit about

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releasing dragon when its mission is

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yeah actually we look at ourselves as

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being a team and we're sharing the

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flying duties and it really doesn't

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matter who's flying the arm at what part

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in time the important thing is that we

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work as a team both on station and with

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the scores of people on the ground that

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are also making this happen and it isn't

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just us it isn't just a person that

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happens to be touching the hand

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controllers at that moment in time it's

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it's the whole team that transcends

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orbit all the way down to earth I

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understand that but I was just trying to

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give under a chance to tell me a little

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bit about dragon I was just wondering

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about the deploy sequence and how that

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the deploy sequin it's actually kind of

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mundane we we unbolt it from the side of

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station we we pull it away about a meter

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and a half and then we type in an auto

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sequence on the arm and it'll move it

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away to a good position for releasing

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dragon and then we open up the stairs

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and carefully pull the arm back about

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back a few meters and then we we punch

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one of the buttons that I showed you on

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that command panel the retreat but the

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depart button and and a dragon goes away

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so so it it should be a pretty

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straightforward a procedure for I said

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to drag it back home you don't want to

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think this joisting that dragon really

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brings to the table and you mentioned

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this in an earlier interview is the

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ability to bring things back to earth

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how important is that given the NASA has

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lost you know that great down capability

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the shuttle had how important is that

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it's actually very important that you

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went it already if you would need it for

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supplies well it's actually more needed

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to bring things back because that's

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capacity we don't have that capability

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we don't have anymore so that's one of

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the most important things in life you

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because well we had a lot of samples

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hear that a lot returned at the moment

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so uses a greater spacecraft it's not a

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cargo space bound to bring back and now

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we have this via this possibility and we

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have a lot of samples biological and

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physiological samples in our freezers

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here and yeah we're looking forward to

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bring that back through to the planet

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yeah thanks very much i'm told

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repetitive theories of most of our

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scientific labor are actual physical

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samples that need to be returned to

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earth and some of the science

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experiments just generate data in the

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form that can be sent back to earth as

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radio waves but but most of the stuff

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that we do ends up with a tangible

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sample and and we need you see samples

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back to earth and and it's like the

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farmer bringing your cross the market

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you can look at a picture of the crop

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but you really don't get satisfied till

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till you see see the vegetable wagon

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pulling in into the market guys thanks a

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lot they tell me we're at a time I

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appreciate it good luck with everything

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that's coming up and hope to see you on

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with you and you all take care

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station this is Houston ACR thank you

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that concludes the event

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